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 Post subject: Re: Gaza-bound aid ships are 'tampered with'
 Post Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:22 pm 
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Im watching the flotilla as life vest wearing speakers announce the fact that there are Israeli warships in their immediate area. The flotilla now is some 100 miles from the coast of Gaza.
The world is watching via Livestream right now. I sincerely hope Israel acts with restraint and diplomacy.
Many Arabic speakers are being heard, but I've heard a couple English citizens speak. They are apparently standing by for communications with the Israeli navy.
They are calling on the international community to help them make safe passage to Gaza. They ask world citizens to contact their government leaders to intervene on the freedom flotilla's behalf.

From someone with contacts in the Israeli military, the following message has been translated.

Commando units that will be used to stop the boats. He says they are highly trained, very efficient and very SILENT.
They will use silent inflatable boats to get to our boats and both try to board our boats directly from the inflatables and by dropping divers into the water to clime onto the boats.

He said that no matter the circumstances, the boats must NOT travel by night or with little light. They must keep in formation at all times, with the smaller boats in the inside and the larger boats on the outside. They must not allow any israeli boats to penetrate the formation.

But we are traveling at night, so everyone out there needs to be aware of what the Israeli military is planning. If this does happen, we have been forewarned. The boats have also. Lubna has just reported that some kind of plane came over the ships, perhaps trying to block the satellite and it looks suspiciously like a drone.. which would make sense.


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lubna: greta urgent we have threat from israel (check out the HELP button on http://www.witnessgaza.com)

me: Lubna. What is happening?

lubna: two israeli ships coming toward us me: So glad to see you here

Me: Please try to stay on this so I can tweet it

lubna: they contact the ship asked who we are and dissappeared now they getting close to the ship we can see them stay here 3 boats are coming not two 3 israeli boats we are 78 mile from israel

me: I’ll keep writing

lubna: people here put their life jackets every body preppering here

me: OK. You are the lifeline to our TWITTER account

lubna: we may loose the wirless, we didnt expect them now, we thought they will arrive at the morning, please stay in touch with the other boats

Sent at 10:50 PM on Sunday

me: We can’t reach anyone

Sent at 10:52 PM on Sunday

me: where are you? Are you there?




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 Post subject: Re: Gaza-bound aid ships are 'tampered with'
 Post Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:38 pm 
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At about 4:30 am, Israeli commandos dropped from helicopter onto deck of Turkish ship, immediately opened fire on unarmed civilians. 20 minutes ago via web

# IDF commandoes descending from an helicopter on the IHH turkish ship. The ship is surrounded by Navy vessels. #Flotilla 7 minutes ago via web

# Live images from the IHH ship, wounded civilians: http://www.livestream.com/insaniyardim 14 minutes ago via web

# Israeli soldiers shooting unarmed civilians. 16 minutes ago via web

# Israeli soldiers shooting at people, all over the Turkish boat. Watch IHH streaming video 17 minutes ago via web

# Report from IHH boat..two killed, 31 wounded. No verification but medical emergency can be seen from ship 19 minutes ago via web

# the #Flotilla is about 145 Km / 90 miles from #Gaza (straight line) 23 minutes ago via web

(Cyprus, May 31, 2010) At 11:00 pm Cyprus time and in international waters off the coast of Israel, the boats were contacted by the Israeli navy. “Who are you and where are you going?” Our reply was that we were part of a flotilla and we were going to Gaza to deliver humanitarian supplies. On the radar, the boats could see three Israeli war ships shadowing us, and 15 minutes later, a silent aircraft hovered over the flotilla. One of our Hebrew speakers had found Israel’s strategy and posted it to us. It stated, “You will be boarded by highly trained, very efficient and very SILENT commandos. They will use silent inflatable boats to get to our boats and both try to board our boats directly from the inflatables and by dropping divers into the water to climb onto the boats,” so people were preparing for them to come up and over the sides of the ships. Our SPOT locator has sent out several HELP messages at www.witnessgaza.com. Lubna Marsawa, Free Gaza’s organizer on the Turkish passenger boat said in outrage, “Very few times in history has a flotilla delivering humanitarian goods been welcomed by military war ships.” This is a call to the world from the people on the boats. “We are a civilian people doing what our governments have refused to do, challenge Israel’s right to collectively punish 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza by blockading their right to their own sea. This flotilla is bringing construction and educational supplies the people of Gaza and are being met by Israeli warships.” Check out this site, find the Israeli embassy nearest you and let them know how you feel.
http://www.embassiesabroad.com/embassies-of/Israel


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 Post subject: Re: Gaza-bound aid ships are 'tampered with'
 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:31 am 
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The aid till today was symbolic?
Here are some figures for aid that was transfered last week to Gaza from Israel:
637 truckloads, consisting of 14,069 tons of humanitarian aid. Among the goods for Gaza civilians were 810,209 liters of heavy duty diesel fuel; 21 truckloads of milk powder and baby food; 897 tons of cooking gas; 66 truckloads of fruits and vegetables; 51 truckloads of wheat; 27 truckloads of meat, chicken and fish products; 40 truckloads of dairy products; 117 truckloads of animal feed; 36 truckloads of hygiene products; 38 trucks of clothing; 22 trucks of sugar and 4 trucks of medicine and medical equipment.

So the 10,000 tons of aid is good and helpful but if you really want to help, why did you refuse to unload the goods in the Israeli port, so it can be transferred to Gaza? What are the activists are afraid of?

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 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:48 am 
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At about 4:30 am, Israeli commandos dropped from helicopter onto deck of Turkish ship, immediately opened fire on unarmed civilians. 20 minutes ago via web

Two people killed and more than 30 injured. Israel used gas and guns on the ship.




This is an act of terrorism by Israel.

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 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 8:23 am 
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Icare wrote:
The aid till today was symbolic?
Here are some figures for aid that was transfered last week to Gaza from Israel:
637 truckloads, consisting of 14,069 tons of humanitarian aid. Among the goods for Gaza civilians were 810,209 liters of heavy duty diesel fuel; 21 truckloads of milk powder and baby food; 897 tons of cooking gas; 66 truckloads of fruits and vegetables; 51 truckloads of wheat; 27 truckloads of meat, chicken and fish products; 40 truckloads of dairy products; 117 truckloads of animal feed; 36 truckloads of hygiene products; 38 trucks of clothing; 22 trucks of sugar and 4 trucks of medicine and medical equipment.

So the 10,000 tons of aid is good and helpful but if you really want to help, why did you refuse to unload the goods in the Israeli port, so it can be transferred to Gaza? What are the activists are afraid of?

http://opinion.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=23976&external=305566.proteus.fma&pageNum=-1


Aid can sent to Israel for Gaza, but that doesn't mean it actually reaches Gaza (and knowing Israel it probably didn't). You can make sure it reaches Gaza by giving it to the Gazans directly.

Also, why are you linking to nonsense like fox news as if they have any credibility on this issue? They don't even take themselves seriously.


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 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 8:56 am 
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And of course the MSM is trying to spin it when they cover it at all!

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Depending on who's reporting the freedom flotilla death toll is anywhere from 10 to 20...

CNN:
(CNN) -- International condemnation poured in Monday after Israeli soldiers stormed a flotilla of ships carrying aid intended for Palestinians in Gaza, leaving at least 10 people dead in the resulting violence.

Israel claimed it was defending itself, with the Israel Defense Forces saying the soldiers' lives were in danger after they were attacked with "severe physical violence, including live fire, weapons, knives and clubs."

IDF spokeswoman Lt. Col. Avital Leibowitz said light weapons and handguns were confiscated. "We basically encountered a lynch," she said. "We had to control this violence."

But other nations condemned the military action and called for an investigation.



World reaction

The Spanish and French governments called the action "disproportionate." The Italian foreign minister asked the European Union to investigate, and several nations, including Greece and Sweden, were summoning their Israeli ambassadors.

An indignant Turkey recalled its ambassador from Israel, canceled three planned military exercises with the Israeli military and called home its youth national football team, which had two games scheduled in Israel, said Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc.

Q&A: What is the blockade about

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was in Chile, but will return after meeting with the Chilean president, Arinc said. The chief of the Turkish military was cutting short a trip to Egypt. The Turkish foreign minister, in Venezuela, was calling the United Nations Security Council to an emergency meeting, Arinc said.

"This operation will leave a bloody stain on the history of humanity," Arinc said. A Turkish group, the Humanitarian Relief Foundation or IHH, was one of the organizers of the flotilla, but people from various nations were aboard.

In a statement, Bahrain called it a "barbaric attack" on the part of Israel.

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, an envoy for the Middle East Quartet, a group of nations working toward peace in the region, said in a statement Monday: "There obviously has to be a full investigation into what has happened. Once again I repeat my view that we need a different and better way of helping the people of Gaza and avoiding the hardship and tragedy that is inherent in the present situation."

Current Foreign Minister William Hague said: "We have consistently advised against attempting to access Gaza in this way, because of the risks involved. But at the same time, there is a clear need for Israel to act with restraint and in line with international obligations."

"This operation will leave a bloody stain on the history of humanity.

--Turkish Deputy PM Bulent Arinc Five Israeli soldiers were wounded, the military said. The ships of the flotilla were being taken to the Israeli port of Ashdod, according to IDF.

The Free Gaza Movement, one of the groups sponsoring the flotilla, disputed Israel's claim of violence by people aboard the ships.

"At about 4:30 am, Israeli commandos dropped from a helicopter onto deck of Turkish ship, immediately opened fire on unarmed civilians," said a post on the group's Twitter page.

Video aired on CNN sister network CNN Turk showed soldiers abseiling onto the deck of a ship from a helicopter above. The boarding of the ships took place more than 70 nautical miles outside Israeli territorial waters, according to IHH.

The Turkish foreign ministry said the incident "might cause irreversible consequences" in the nation's relationship with Israel.

"They wanted to make a political statement. They wanted violence.

--Israeli spokesman Mark Regev
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"Israel has once again clearly demonstrated that it does not value human lives and peaceful initiatives through targeting innocent civilians," the statement said. "We strongly condemn these inhuman acts of Israel."

Meanwhile, a protest that began outside the Israeli embassy in Istanbul on Sunday continued into Monday. Although largely peaceful, police did use water cannons at one point to keep demonstrators at bay. Israel issued a "serious travel warning" for Israelis visiting Turkey. Those planning to travel to Turkey were asked to postpone their trip, while those in Turkey were advised to stay indoors.

The Israeli PM office has issues a serious travel warning for Israeli travelers visiting Turkey. The warning calls Israelis who are about to travel into Turkey to postpone their trip and for Israelis in Turkey to remain indoors and avoid presence in the city centers.

In Gaza, where the flotilla was headed, Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri called for global support of the Palestinian cause.

"The Israeli attack on the Freedom Flotilla is an ugly crime and against international law and this reflects the nature of the criminal Israeli occupation," Zuhri said. "We call upon the free world Arab and Muslim world to stand in support and help and support the international activists who have been subjected to killing in the middle of the sea."

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called for three days of mourning in the Palestinian territories to honor the lives lost.

Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev accused the leaders of the flotilla of looking for a fight.

"They wanted to make a political statement. They wanted violence," according to Regev, who said Israel wanted a peaceful interception of the ships trying to break Israel's blockade of Gaza. "They are directly responsible for the violence and the deaths that occurred."

The convoy of boats approached Gaza in defiance of an Israeli blockade and had been shadowed by three Israeli warships. Free Gaza had reported Sunday that they had been contacted by the Israeli navy.

The boats left European ports in a consolidated protest organized by two pro-Palestinian groups to deliver tons of food and other aid to Gaza to break a blockade imposed by Israel in 2007.

The maritime convoys were organized by both the Free Gaza Movement and the IHH, a humanitarian relief foundation affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood religious group.

Israel said Sunday that Western and Turkish authorities have accused IHH of having "working relations" with different terrorist organizations.

CNN's Ben Wedeman in Cairo, Egypt, and Ivan Watson in Istanbul, Turkey, contributed to this report.
A good source of live info can be found on presstv: http://www.presstv.com
Presstv is reporting 20 dead unarmed civillians. They're also showing aerial video of the actual attack.

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 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:09 am 
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RT has the best 2:51 minutes of the attack as it happened

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This world is getting more crazy and more upside-down every minute that passes.

I hope you people will realize the significance of this.

I was shocked when they leveled jenin. Then the Lebanon war. Killing of Rachel Correy and how the media imediately moved to smear the dead girl. More shocked when they started the christmas murders of 2009. All that was one-sided violence. This time they pissed of turkey.

With or without turkey, war is coming and it's coming this year.

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