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 Post subject: Petrodollar scam
 Post Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:58 pm 
 
From K:

Multiple interests go into these wars...

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 Post subject: Re: Petrodollar scam
 Post Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:15 pm 
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The only thing I disagree with is saying it's not about the oil. If you consume 25% of something in the world you have pretty much next to nothing left of....it's definitely about getting and keeping that 25% flowing smoothly, and then some.

But then again the petro dollar scheme is pretty much all about oil in the first place. It's even in the name itself.


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 Post subject: Re: Petrodollar scam
 Post Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:55 pm 
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Here is the problem that I have with that. The War in Iraq wasn't started by oil companies or even just random big businesses. The war in Iraq was started by a Zionist cabal. The lies about Niger didn't come from Exxon they came from Ledeen and Franklin. The Mobile weapons labs myth didn't come from Mobile or BP it came from Judith Miller and Lewis Libby. The lies about a meeting in Prague didn't come from Texaco they came from Israeli intellegence. The PNAC groups propaganda to start a war with Iraq is exactly what was used. And this Zionist cabal was writing those things and foaming at the mouth for a war with Iraq back in the 1990s before there even was a Euro. Actually the core papers like Oden Yinon and Israeli Clean Break which spelled out the reasons for the war which PNAC later re-wrote as they got into power were writtin in the 1970s. 1979 is when Saddam was placed in power by the CIA and there was no EU and no Euro. PLus the US and CFR were the ones pushing to create an EU.

Also the US did not owe the French money. The French still owes the US money from WWII. In 1971 OPEC wasn't an issue. The world oil spike happen in 1973 as a result of the Yom Kippur War and the US sending Israel 2 billion dollars. It was after that that the US created a inerdependancy with Saudi Arabia not byu petro dollars but by way of the IMF and World Banks. They bribed leaders into excepting overpriced loans for "developement" which generate enough interest that it can only be paid by the continued sale of oil. By gaing assurance from Saudi Arabia the OPEC oil weapon was nuetralized. The US also still had control of Iran and 50% of its oil assets until 1979 when the coup replaced the Shah. The US lost Iran in 79 and put Saddam in power in Iraq that same yeay within 5 months and the following year Iraq was at war with Iran for the next 8 and a half years taring both countries apart.

And the US didn't get more oil but less oil from Iraq once it was invaded. And the trillions spent cost more than what buying the oil would have costed or having it sold in Euros. An iol company doesn't give a shit they can just build a distributer in Europe. The US is trying to devalue the dollar as hard as it can. The government spend trillions on wars, bails out hundreds of billions, misplaces trillions, borrows trillions more from Japan and China etc. The US is not concerned with floating the dollar on oil. We went to war for Israel plain and simple. That is WHO lied us into war. That is who benefited from the war. (the US hasn't at all). And that is where the new propaganda about Iran is coming from.

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