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Post subject: F'Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the rich Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:57 am |
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Joined: Jun 27th, 2005 Posts: 31539 Location: Japan
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'Fiscal Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the "rich"There is a Horrible tax returning as the cut was allowed to expire. Will cost the average American worker about $1,000 Will cost small businesses a hell of a lot more than that. Here is what the 'fiscal cliff' bill really does raises taxes and not just on the "rich" it raises taxes on everyone about 1,000 dollars for the mean salary because it allowed a tax cut to expire and Obama's payroll tax is back it's going from 4.2% to 12.4% on your wages of which you will pay half and your employer will pay half. So instead of a 2.1% tax coming out of your wages you now have to pay 6.2% basically triple so that they can pay social security. Odd too because had several presidents not spent the social security trust there would be no crisis to raise money for it. Do you know how devastating that is for business owners to have a near 300% tax increase for every single employee? And then the employees have it too. And why? So the government can take your money. And for what Social Security? Lies! The government is wasting trillions of dollars on war of aggression and foreign aid. They should be cutting that pointless spending and paying for social security and there wouldn't have to be any payroll tax at all! And that's just part of it. The fiscal cliff deal also raises tax on the middle class, and wealthy, but not the super wealthy or any of the corporations who have not paid any income taxes at all for the past 4 years.
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Post subject: Re: F'Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the rich Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:41 pm |
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_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception (Magic Bunnies) Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
ry ryan dawson author politics political antineocon anti-neocon antineocons anti-neocons raising the volume of peace - news the media is paid not to tell you how they blep you
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Post subject: Re: F'Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the rich Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:18 pm |
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All the taxing bills that are signed don't mean a thing if no one complies with them.
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Post subject: Re: F'Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the rich Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:41 pm |
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nice talk, ask Larken Rose about it, they threw him in jail for it. The IRS can and will put you in a cage. And anything thing that starts with well "what i if everyone just..." is a fantasy solution.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception (Magic Bunnies) Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Post subject: Re: F'Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the rich Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:02 pm |
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Ry wrote: nice talk, ask Larken Rose about it, they threw him in jail for it. The IRS can and will put you in a cage. And anything thing that starts with well "what i if everyone just..." is a fantasy solution. In order for the IRS to put you in a cage, they have to catch you first. Obviously, you can't just not pay your taxes and expect nothing to happen, so people who plan on going that route should also plan on what they're going to when the IRS comes after them.
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Post subject: Re: F'Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the rich Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:56 am |
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Just about everyone I know is too poor to pay any income taxes. It's like 47% of Americans. And if you do make enough to have to pay income taxes then just pay the fucking thing. It's not worth jail.
_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception (Magic Bunnies) Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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Post subject: Re: F'Cliff' deal Obama just signed not just taxing the rich Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:03 am |
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You have been so reasonable lately.
The big changes will come if we can get rid of loop holes and other legal forms of tax evasions. Get more money in play and out of the money hoaders pockets. It wont make that much of a difference in the short term, but we cannot stop trying. BTW, I do pay income taxes and I'm not rich, so I certainly am "putting my money where my mouth is".
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