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 Post subject: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Thanks to this blog as well

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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:08 pm 
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:lol: look at the comments the neo nazis made on the youtube page

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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:36 pm 
 
I have questionable racist undertones, Im an Agnostic Catholic CHristian. That is Belive if we have a creator that we all in life live in some kind of stream of conscience spirituality. I have dated jewish girls in maryland. Talked to Jewish girls in Maryland and yes Maryland has a large Jewish community and also a community to help Jewish people and zionists come here to work at the affor mentioned mall Kiosk Karts. Ive gotten phone numbers talked to people.

For the most part, the American Jewish community is the same as the zionist community in Israel. They are for the Jewish state and the jewish peoples. If you have any common faith in a God they are not for that. for the large part they are not for interfaith marriages or interfaith beliefs. One time to many this hurt me to befriend Jewish people Living in Maryland only to be stabed into the back.

That is not to believe that I will change my agnostic catholic christian faith. That I believe we were created by some kind of as RYan calls it, Galactic baby sitter who winds the clock on the universe or that he loves us and cares for us as a father and lets us make mistakes to learn from. or that I do not belive that there are other people of other faith who are mature enough to belive as i do. That "My God is better than Your god."

It has left a bitter taste in my mouth though that the larges portion of jewish peoples live in America, Maryland or Israel are willing participants in the zionist National socialist dialog. And support or are willing to be dragged into a discussion of making war with large angry arab states or to support israel or the dead language of hebrew ( which is necessary to preserve the word of ancient transcripts and meanings of words.). And I had burried most of my family and had 2 cancer surgerys and I simply do not have endless lifetimes to spend with people discover the meaning of life for peoples that I consider narrow minded.


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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:56 pm 
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you may want to look up some terms. You cannot be agnostic and a christian at the same time. Also if you are catholic you dont have to say christian as that is understood by the word catholic.

A lot of religious people jews and christians support israel because the whole concept behind and israel even being there is from those religions. I can tell you my friends all of whom are atheist because i have a hard time being friends with an idiot, have been gentile or ethnically Jewish and anti-Israel. I just had a man on the radio two weeks ago Norman Finkelstein who is Jewish and about as anti-Israel as can be. What makes a person pro israel or not is not ethnicity or religion its their intelligence. Any Jew with any sense would drop their religion and thus drop Israel too since its very existence stems from religious belief.

Dumb/young people travel in dumb/young circles so to them it can seem like everyone is an idiot. I certainly would think so if I was forced to live in Maryland. No one I personally know, no one i went to college with, or work with, has ever supported israel. Not to say young people are dumb they arent but politically many of them really dont know much about the world yet compared to their selves later in life.

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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:13 pm 
 
I certainly support the Jewish state of Israel. I dont want 3 Million Zionist Jews living in America would be catastrophic. Because of their Zionist Nature Jewish peoples are not welcome in many parts of the world. The largest portion nearly half live in the US. So there are about 3 or million Jews living in Israel and about 3 or 4 million jews living in the US.

I understand than Peoples personal beliefs run strong.

I also believe that alot of your key arguments about faith are fundamentally true. They become transparent in revival. That is alot of people stupid arguments about faiths and beliefs are fundamental flawed. I have met alot of Jews and Christians who are agnostic but also some tote the bottom line. I believe it is possible.

I believe that because of these fundamental arguments. And I will say it from almost an atheist point of view to argue. That if there is a god. How can anyone person presume to say they know what God is thinking or what is Gods will. I believe that there are people out there, I haven't met alot of them. That understand this argument.

And this is where people run into problems. They say I know God is Good. I know God wants me to be successful and have a million dollars. And they run out and join some radical ridiculous cult and marry their cousin and do all kinds of stuff, even commit atrocities in Gods name.

If there was a god and he loved people and wanted them to be successful he would not want people do do any of these things.

Thats why you can call this a stupid argument Ryan.

But remember also that this is the PRIEMEIR TOPIC OF THE AGES FOR THE WORLD GREATEST PHILOSOPHERS. for thousands of years PLATO. SOCRATES, ANCIENT CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHERS, MARXIST, SOCIAL DARWINISTS, DIREISM and NICZHE.

People have debated this issue intelligently.

Does the Universe have a supreme omnipotent all powerful being.
Just something for people to think and talk about.
Rationally. Your personal belief is yours to believe.


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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:18 pm 
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christian philosophy is an oxymoron Plato and Socrates lived before christianity or judaism even existed and neither one of them believed in the state gods. Socrates was put to death for it an Plato's pupil Aristotle was banished from Athens over it. Niche and Marx were both atheist as are the overwhelming majority of philosophers. The questions they pose are not is there a god or not. the questions they pose are about virtue, how to behave, nature of man etc and have nothing to do with gods.

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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:37 pm 
 
Correct but what i am saying is they questioned everything. They questioned the greek gods? How many? Which is the greatest. They questioned the scientific and they questioned medical ethics. They questioned mathematics and the relations of quantifiable measurable mass. ERUEKA.

But most of all they were ultimately put to death. Because they asked questions. Dangerous questions about the state and the moral and ethical questions of the state. They put everything god, the universe, math and science under a microscope. And because they were willing to do it and engage people in thoughtful dialog were able to create one of the greatest civilizations in history?


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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:40 pm 
 
(in the ancient times the dark ages people debated christian dogma, theology and philosophy. Now its posted as rhetoric and doctrine which is why you have 110 different brand names of christian instead of one. Divide and conquer )


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 Post subject: Re: Woodshed Veteran's Today
 Post Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:21 am 
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debating dogma is not philosophy its theology. philosophy rejects dogma because it is dogma

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