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 Post subject: Re: Iran Syria my 2 cents
 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:59 pm 
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Could you please expand on how Gaddafi was threatening euro interests?

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I did. The Suez canal was opened after the Egyptian revolution and thus Gaddafi had the option of sending his oil East to China instead of having to send it to Europe. That is why moments after the Canal was open he made contracts with China and told Europe to stick it and so NATO invaded. That timing wasn't coincidence.

Jesus dude I made maps and everything I don't know how I could make it more simple. I have a good idea though. Go up to the first post and read that one. More than the title try reading the post it will be very enlightening. Or wait for the video version sigh.

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Another great essay Ry.

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why can't a pipeline go out the east side of the caspian through turkmenistan and uzbekistan and kyrgistan?

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=fire ... CC4Q8gEwAA


Youre right this has already happened
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8410369.stm


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That line and the kazak line are infinitesimal. China opened a gas pipeline to Turkmenistan in December of 2009. The next one is set for 2013 (they think) but these are better than nothing hopefuls, hardly a drop in the bucket. The consortium on those deals are 99% western as well. Iran now that Iraq has been torn apart has the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world and the largest gas field. go learn about the pipelines

If Iran freed up its oil or way able to feed European and Asian markets with their own lines, they would become hands down the most powerful economy and nation in the middle east well surpassing Israel. Energy needs could be leveraged for other political purposes aka free Palestine etc. If the Middle East could manage its resources right they would leave Europe in the dust. If it were not for that and the religious ball and chain holding back scientific thought an innovation, they would be super powers.

It's absolutely crucial to maintain that they derive their cultural identity from religion continue to fight with one another do not have some scientifically literate nation like Russia come in and build nuclear power for them.

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Ry wrote:
I did. The Suez canal was opened after the Egyptian revolution and thus Gaddafi had the option of sending his oil East to China instead of having to send it to Europe. That is why moments after the Canal was open he made contracts with China and told Europe to stick it and so NATO invaded. That timing wasn't coincidence.

Jesus dude I made maps and everything I don't know how I could make it more simple. I have a good idea though. Go up to the first post and read that one. More than the title try reading the post it will be very enlightening. Or wait for the video version sigh.


All you wrote was;

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Libya could send its oil south east to Asia. So shortly after the revolution a conflict was manufactured in Libya, Libya was invaded, Gaddafi removed and his contracts with the Chinese reneged.


Surely you can understand why "Libya could send its oil south east to Asia" is an unsatisfactory exposure of how Gaddafi screwed european oil interests? It's rather vague. I assumed he broke contracts with the euros. Hence, it would be nice if you provided some details and sources, if that's possible. Evidence that he told Europe to stick it. I take your word for it, but I suspect most people wont be convinced by "Ryan Dawson said so". :) So would you please back it up so I can back it up?

Thank you.

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Aug 22 (Reuters) - Italian oil company Eni led the charge back into Libya on Monday as rebels hailing the end of Muammar Gaddafi's rule warned Russian and Chinese firms that they may lose out on lucrative oil contracts for failing to support the rebellion.


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"We don't have a problem with Western countries like the Italians, French and UK companies. But we may have some political issues with Russia, China and Brazil," Abdeljalil Mayouf, information manager at Libyan rebel oil firm AGOCO, told Reuters.

The comment signals a potential setback for those countries which opposed tough sanctions on Gaddafi or pressed for more talks and would leave European and U.S. companies to capture billions of dollars worth of oil exploration and construction contracts in the OPEC member nation.


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About 75 Chinese companies operated in Libya before the war, involving about 36,000 staff and 50 projects, according to Chinese media.

Russian companies, including oil firms Gazprom Neft and Tatneft , also had projects worth billions of dollars in Libya. Brazilian firms such as Petrobras and construction company Odebrecht were also in business there.

"We have lost Libya completely," Aram Shegunts, director general of the Russia-Libya Business Council, told Reuters. "Our companies will lose everything there because NATO will prevent them from doing their business in Libya."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/ ... 7F20110822

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Could you please expand on how Gaddafi was threatening euro interests?

No because it had nothing to do with the euro and if he had planned on that Europe wouldn't have been attacking him.


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Surely you can understand why "Libya could send its oil south east to Asia" is an unsatisfactory exposure of how Gaddafi screwed European oil interests? It's rather vague. I assumed he broke contracts with the euros. Hence, it would be nice if you provided some details and sources, if that's possible. Evidence that he told Europe to stick it. I take your word for it, but I suspect most people wont be convinced by "Ryan Dawson said so". :) So would you please back it up so I can back it up?


Unless you have been asleep all year it common knowledge that Gadaffi canceled billions of dollar worth of contract to Europe because he had a new buyer. If you want the reports form China about it see my 911 kook video i put it in there. China still wants the deals it made with him but the new "government" is saying no.

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