Trayvon Brutally Beat and Broke the Nose of the Neighborhood

Axe Kick · **Joined:** Mar 14th, 2011 **Posts:** 123

Phys wrote:

Axe this is a straw man.
A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet un-equivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position

And that's exactly what you are doing. You didn't address anything I said:

Phys wrote:

Yeah, my son is 17yrs old and he is still my baby.

What is known, what isn’t about Trayvon Martin’s death
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/31/v ... rylink=cpy

My comments:

“Stand Your Ground” is not a free pass to shoot. Florida Statutes, Title XLVI, Crimes Section 776.041 — Use of force by aggressor: “The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who… (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless: (a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant…”

Trayvon had no marks on his hands. Zimmerman had no visible blood on his face or clothes which is odd because the head has tons of blood vessels. http://download.videohelp.com/vitualis/med/bloodh-n.htm Have you ever cut yourself shaving or had a minor cut to your face or head? or had a bloody nose? The injuries Zimmerman described were more than shaving or a minor cut. They were supposedly near life threatening and still not one bandage 30mins after the supposed life threatening event. We also know that Zimmerman has anger issues and a criminal record. Trayvon is just some punk teenage like many guys his age and many adults too but that doesn't make him a criminal.

You just started telling me about some speculations and that I thought it was laughable if someone had potentially had a brain injury which is total BS. My son got a concussion during spring break a few weeks ago in CO while snowboarding and I was in TX. Believe me, I was completely freaked out. However, he doesn't even know anything about that day even though he had a cat scan, tons of finger pricks to check glucose levels, and bruised up arms due to 3 attempts at an IV because he was fighting them. Concussions are serious and require medical treatment.

The lead investigator doesn't even believe Zimmerman and he had more facts than you.

And now your lying about what I said. I never said he HAD brain injuries, I said if he kept getting the back of his head smashed into the ground he may well have had brain injuries.

The police say he (Zimmerman) had injuries, the family says medical records will back those up. The tape shows a big gash to the back of his head. We have a witness saying the next day he had injuries. Face it, Zimmerman had injuries, trying to deny that based on a grainy video (there is a better quality one now which clearly shows the gash) is again, laughable.

And regarding Trayvon having no injuries, if he never got hit, what injuries do you expect him to have? If I punch someone, and then slam the back of his head against the ground with my hands on the side or top of his head, what injuries should I be showing?

And regarding your comment about the lead investigator, Chris Serino, you might want to read this

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... ral-agency

Quote:

Two weeks ago, during an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, Lee disclosed certain details of the investigation and during that session, attended by Serino and others, Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman's account – that he had acted in self-defense.

"The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event," Serino told the Sentinel March 16. "Everything I have is adding up to what he says."

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