Joined: Jun 27th, 2005 Posts: 31554 Location: Japan
My radio interview today on Wiki was cut only a few minutes into it. I had to re-download skype. Wonderful interview on wikigeeks that no one heard. So i'll tell you the super short version
First I want to say that I fully support actual whistle blowing, and Free Speech. I do not think it is patriotic to allow the government to lie. I don't think it is taboo to crack "classified" information when the info is only categorized as such to hide the government's illegal and immoral activities. That said, WL is not what it pretends to be.
Thrice this month we have the FBI caught in entrapment scams for homegrown terrorism.. hold that thought. Like Xe is outsourced private military, this wiki thing was private intelligence, not whistle blowing. They got the early funding from anti-China factions and stacked itself with a break China board, then took the money and started on the path to demonize Pakistan and Iran (enemies of Israel and India) Not a peep about the illegal drug trade in Afghanistan (as the CIA profits form that) nothing on the blackmakert weapons trade out of the state department or our own DoD. It's nothing of substance just stuff everyone already knows but from an "authoritarian" source with a very nice leftist face painted over it all.
Three types of info comes out 1 No shit cables about things that are already public 2 Personal data on world officials but not Israel or India 3 State propaganda about Iran, Al Qaeda, Pakistan etc all bullshit.
1 goes together with 3 to create credibility 2 has nothing to do with entertaining us with gossipy information, 2 is a clever way of saying, to the US mainly, we have eyes and ears all the way up your skirt, even private conversations. Do what we say, it's blackmail
Then this week the US backs off the settlement freeze. As a result of the rape-gate bullshit hackers attack several businesses involved in shutting down babyface assange, this while a bill to censor the internet is in the congress, going after "hackers" can act as a pretext to shut up the real bloggers who expose real truth about the state. Already one of the women has returned to Israel. Assange poo poos 911 truth as a means of dividing the peace movement. (that was already explained)
Assange told TIME how he admired Ben Netanyahu, TIME in turn gave WL praise BEFORE they even leaked anything, and then later made babyface the man of the year. Assange was in Israel making deals/getting approval before releasing info that only he has the 256 character password for.
Iran rejects wikileaks as do many other leaders, and crytome a real whistle site, that was working with wiki in the beginning outs them as intelligence. (crytome is who gave us the info on UMS owner Dominik Suter as a 911 suspect from grabbing the Italian and Polish translations of the FBI suspects for 911 that were removed form the English sites)
The conventional means of smearing Iran have failed. If not war, the strictest sanctions possible are to be placed on Iran. The US cannot afford or support a war with Iran short of another false flag, which is why the FBI is test running so many of them recently.
We are not in Afghanistan to get Osma Ben Laden as the WL reports to believe Osama is alive, and al qaeda is real etc. And we certainly are not in Iraq because of Al Qada all those prewar lies have been exposed. 911 truther aka critical thinkers were exposing it all before the war began. Afghanistan is about pipelines, the HBJ and TAPI lines to India with Unocal and Halliburton taking in more than a few pennies and China being blocked out. The US bases in Afghanistan sit along the proposed TAPI pipeline which started a long side the massive increase in troop deployment. And it lands right in India who desperate needs the gas for its growing population and industrialization. It's 1 billion person customer base has been attracting and partnering Western and Japanese companies for everything form cell phone contracts to cars. Japan's largest cell phone company for example has far more subscribers in India than Japan.
The False Flags of the underwear bomber from ECIL/OIS run by the Indian government and the cargo nonbomb attack which have allowed these naked scanners(contracted by the parent company's Rapiscan and brokers through the Chertoff group aka a former head of the DHS who could assure an attack would work with out risk) are placed on Yemen the last of two places with ports that don't have a western military presence which are China's gateway into Africa. The other is Somalia, and both Yemen and Somalia have been hit with pirates myths (brought on by dumping toxic waste in their waters), terrorists and finally Al Qaeda. They pulled the Al Qaeda card out again after the xmas bombing. How continent that it was an "underwear" bomb meaning see we have to inside your underwear to find them...and look we are the only ones with this machine to do so. Al Shabab in Somalia is the org pleading loyalty to Osma and tearing Somalia apart was busted with an America cell trying to join aka create Al qaeda in Somalia, and Israel was busted running a fake cell in Yemen who they were trying to point to as Al Qaeda.
Iraq and Afghanistan both border the strongest country in the middle East, Iran. And Afghanistan i=hit first borders Iran and Pakistan. Israel and India would love to see Iran and Pakistan isolated weaken and eventually crushed. The US is has been able to pay off Pakistan but Pakistan's puppet gov is quickly losing its ability to control everything in its borders. NATO is losing the war because of the inability to check greed, and spending so much per soldier that attacks on supplies and machinery is drying them up. Iran benefited as much as Israel from the Iraq war. The US is on the brink of a total dollar collapse, Iran and Pakistan are slowly winning this fight. China found a nitch in rare earth metals, and is not shaken by the recent Korean incident. (started by SK shooting first into the waters and hold a massive mock invasion drill into NK)
Wikileaks is the new As Sahab to promote propaganda not as a ridiculous Al Qaeda Internet spokesperson but as an indirect mouth piece for Israeli propaganda via cherry picked cables from brainless military grunts who are repeating the trash leveled on them by the pentagon. My fear is Israel has enough dirt on those who were holding out to force a potentially global war both physically and financially. and Aisa is going to win.
We cannot let the US be a police state. And the way to reverse it all is going to be from the US people and even a few of the talking heads who have caught on. Crush the TSA and Co via Ron Paul's bill. Audit the Fed once Paul is in a Chairman position. The American people want this it is going mainstream. It IS going to happen. Without that they cannot continue the wars of aggression. Drop the wikileaks glam which is as undeserved as the bs herd mentality run wikipedia which also has the CIA and megaphoners censoring the political information. Don't allow the peace movement to divide. Turn away from the attention whore and get the focus back where is was before the babyface theater drama was set in motion. Hold the Fed's feet to the fire and strip power away from the police/security state by outing the TSA and their unconstitutional gadgets. The cons screwed up big time at the airports because it acted as the kick in the butt needed to get regular non-political Americans involved and listening to political Americans, truthers, real bloggers etc who have been able to spring board from the TSA to other topics, and the public is listening.
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Ry
Post subject: Re: Wikileaks the new As Sahab
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:37 am
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fallenpattern
Post subject: Re: Wikileaks the new As Sahab
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:34 am
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Very well written. You are right, I am hating every moment of distraction. Everyone seems so busy talking about what WL leaked and it was funny as well as frustrating finding people in my school talking about how WL confirmed Osama is hiding in Pak-Afghan border while on the other hand the same people couldn't tell what/where Palestine is?
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Ry
Post subject: Re: Wikileaks the new As Sahab
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:05 pm
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Assange is a con-artist attention whore. Stop drooling over the soap opera and get back to crushing the TSA and the FED. We had the ball rolling before the theatrical good guy vs Evil narrative was thrust on the airwaves. IGNORE IT. Get back on track. Wikleaks has not reported a thing of substance not already on 100s of patriot blogs.
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bipolarbear57
Post subject: Re: Wikileaks the new As Sahab
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:24 pm
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(Editor’s note: in this article, the author frequently employs reverse affirmations in order to protect his spiritual integrity)
Our hero, Illya Kuriakan, (Julian Assange) international man of mystery and uncle sam’s tool to usurp your last remaining rights to freedom of expression is made a martyr…
I would never advocate disturbing the comforts US citizens still enjoy. Hero or traitor — you see the MSM/MICC only gives us 2 choices. But like the false paradigm of the “two party electoral system”there is really only one choice and that’s the one that has been selected for you by the elites.
I would never advocate open rebellion or even peaceful non-cooperation with authority. The same for national strikes and walkouts in all sectors of the American economy; “not gonna do it.”(GHWB)
I would never advocate the overthrow of a standing government, it’s officers, or proxies.
I would never advocate the assassination of any American citizen, even the president.
The Tree of Liberty is withering and dying from the drought of democratic non-participation on the part of the “governed”. My blood is in my body and thát’s where I want to keep it! I guess that makes me neither a traitor nor a patriot. I do not advocate spilling blood to gain liberty. I am content to live my private life as a consumer, relinquishing my rights to privacy and speech to gain security that protects my right to aquire property and stay comfortable
In any event,
the American people are yet still too comfortable to get up off their collective rear-ends and storm the halls of power and demand real change….
Now, excuse me while I commit suicide.
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bruno718
Post subject: Re: Wikileaks the new As Sahab
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:39 pm
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why did wiki go after hillary for requests of espionage?
March 2010 - Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton criticized Israel today for announcing an expansion of settlements while Vice President Joe Biden was visiting the country this week.
The announcement forced Biden to issue a statement condemning the decision while in the midst of touring through Israel and meeting with top officials.
"It was insulting," Clinton told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell in an interview airing today. "And it was insulting not just to the vice president, who certainly didn't deserve that. He was there with a very clear message of commitment to the peace process solidarity with the Israeli people. But it was an insult to the United States."
On Tuesday, Israel approved 1600 new homes in East Jerusalem, where Palestinians feels their land is being encroached on. The U.S. has urged Israel to stop expanding settlements in order to improve the climate for peace talks.
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Ry
Post subject: Re: Wikileaks the new As Sahab
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:52 pm
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Quote:
Hero or traitor — you see the MSM/MICC only gives us 2 choices. But like the false paradigm of the “two party electoral system”there is really only one choice and that’s the one that has been selected for you by the elites.
exactly on point
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Post subject: Re: Wikileaks the new As Sahab
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:02 pm
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_________________ This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering, and all forms of government corruption, mass media deception, and cover ups. This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey. Take that junk somewhere else. My Twitter "It doesn't matter who we are underneath. It is what we do that defines us." Batman Google version of War by Deception Pass HR 1207 and S604 audit the Fed
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