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 Post subject: Dumbass celebrity liberal plays the race card
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:21 am 
I understand that the Tea Parties were a mixed bag with lots of warmongering republicans there, but there were also a lot people who were protesting about legitimate things like taxes and the emerging police state. For Janeane Garofalo to characterize them as just racists is misleading and once again takes the focus away from the real issues. She's just another stupid party hack. Most liberals are hypocrites.

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Tell the Right and Left Wing tribal idiots to stick it. The Tea parties are not about blaming just one wing of the party. It's about stopping the whole system, killing the fed and ending the pointless wars for Israel.

We can't let the right wing idiots attach their faces to a grass roots movement that has been in the works for years. The original concept of the "Tea Party" was for RON PAUL and it was also about taxation without representation. We don't want to pay taxes that are being used to finance trillion dollar wars that we never wanted to start with. Sure we don't want bailouts either and we hate Obama too but that in no way means that we fell for the McCain bullshit of calling Obama the anti-Christ or worse yet racism. Is this all the Liberals have left to use? Are they so desperate that they are trying the Israeli tactic of claiming anyone against them is a racist?

Obama is continuing ALL of Bush's war and then some. He's kept Nafta, he's kept torture, just yesterday he stated that he would not prosecute those in the CIA guilty of torture and torture programs, and most of all he has spent over 4 trillion dollars in 4 months and it has done nothing to stimulate the economy all he did was made money tight and bailed out billionaires so that they could keep their way of life.

Fuck Obama and Fuck Fox News and the religious Theocons. Obama has as much in common with a country bumpkin religious right wing moron as any neocon does. The man speaks like a preacher and isn't even capable of talking like a moral human being. He constantly make religious references and is a whore to the Israeli lobby announcing that Jerusalem will be the undivided capital of Israel.

Our signs have to read. NO REPUBLICRATS. Death to both Parties. Fuck the Fed Fuck Fox and Fuck the leftist race card bullshit. This is about FREEDOM and JUSTICE. We don't want any more WARS and we don't want to bail out Billionaires. We want to end the fed, end the wars, and cut taxes to help MAIN STREET.

Janean weren't you so anti-war back in the day and now what a non-white is doing all the same things and suddenly it is OK? Could not people hate Obama for the same reasons as they hated Bush?! Stupid cunt. Olberman grow up. I'm pretty sick of all the sexual innuendos about tea bags. The only one sucking nuts are the guys at MSNBC sucking the left nut and the guys at Fox News sucking the right one.

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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:23 am 
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You're wrong about Garafalo. I'm pretty sure she's an Independent. She's also been vocal about protesting the Iraq war before it began and other issues.

Like you said, the Tea Party was a mixed bag. They weren't all bad. They were mostly Republicans bitter after the election. I've heard right wingers like Sean Hannity praising the event. I'm sure some of them were racists who hate Obama and immigrants for only one reason.


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I'm not wrong about her. Did you not watch the fucking video of her talking? I know she was against the war. But NOW she is quiet about it because Obama is in charge. What kind of deranged over socialized liberal would blame tea parties on "racism" as if people couldn't hate Obama for any other reason. Like the same reasons she hated Bush. Because they have the SAME policies.

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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:27 am 
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You're wrong about Garafalo. I'm pretty sure she's an Independent. She's also been vocal about protesting the Iraq war before it began and other issues.


No I think she's a Democrat, I once heard her say Obama or Hilary Clinton, either one is good as long as we beat the republicans. Also she was on a totally liberal talk radio show called The Majority Report I think. She's hypocrite just like the republicans, when they are out of power they talk almost like libertarians (talk is cheap, think Obama) but when they get into power you see it was just a cynical attempt to get supporters and attack the other party. Right now some republican are allegedly getting a spine, the voters never seem to learn.


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I'm not wrong about her. Did you not watch the fucking video of her talking? I know she was against the war. But NOW she is quiet about it because Obama is in charge. What kind of deranged over socialized liberal would blame tea parties on "racism" as if people couldn't hate Obama for any other reason. Like the same reasons she hated Bush. Because they have the SAME policies.


Agree. Youre either anti-War or you arent.

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I'm really tired of MSNBC calling everyone who protest our taxes being used to pay off billionaires and continue unjust wars, a bunch of nut sack suckers. They overplayed the tea-bag bit like a bunch of middle school kids who first learned the meaning of a new swear word.

They went right after the People in the protest and not after the message. That's purely an ad hominen attack. They labeled the Tea Party participants as nut sucking kooks and racist and they ignored the idea that Americans across the the spectrum might just not like paying for billionaires' gambling habits and ongoing wars of choice.

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Ry, that was the best video you ever made. It's pretty much everything I would say if I had a camera. GREAT JOB BRO!!!


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best video ever :!:

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Since youtube kicks me off anyway I just was myself. In how they bleep you etc I show great restraint. In this one I just talked and didn't edit anything.

I can stand those type of dumb liberal cunts. I don't like Republicans but that hippy campus image that ALL the Republicans are racist white guys is soooo asinine and its shocking how much it prevails. Likewise the Right wing nut who thinks ALL leftest are Welfare sucking snobby entitlements whores is almost just as stupid.

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best video ever :!:

I couldn't have said it better myself. :clap:

And FUCK YOUTUBE if they try to pull it!!

I'll just post it. :P :peace:

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I cried... I use to watch Oblerman and then I saw Ron Paul and I said now here is a man
that can save America? But mr O never mentioned him? I guess Jesse Ventura was right,
there is only so much you can say on the lame stream media. Good job Ry


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What I hate the most is how the tea party thing has been so heavily co-opted and how the establishment left goes right along with it and labels us all as basically neocons now when we're the people who are actually anti-war, and they are either silent or supportive of continued imperialism under Obama. The whole mainstream media is worthless, we shouldn't be suprised by this shit. Olbermann has always been bad, I've known it for sure ever since he insulted Ron Paul for wanting to get rid of the IRS in the debates. Everyone on tv is bad, there are no exceptions. Lou Dobbs is bad as well. Some people in the truth movement think that he's good cause he's exposed the North American Union but I've also heard him help cheerlead fucking attacking Iran. How is that 'good'? The only person on tv who's good at all is this Judge Napolitano guy (not sure if that's how his name is spelled). But I'm not sure that he's even on the regular Fox News I think that his show might only be on their website. If it is on the actual channel then it's on in the middle of the day when they know not that many people are watching. Also Max Keiser is decent, but he's not even on BBC anymore so we'll see if they put him back on or not, he claims they're going to. I heard him say something anti-gun on Alex Jones though so I don't know.

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Some good points made. We certainly need to get past the left/right Republicrat divide, but I think Ry was too harsh on J.G.

Calling her a "stupid cunt" is really infantile.

Yeah, she was too sweeping in her "racist" characterization; she is missing out on the legitimate conservative/libertarian component of this movement; and the main reason for this that she's pissed off. She's watched eight years of Bush go by, she earns her living in la la land; and she's just letting fly with what she thinks after having to hold it in for so long.

Fox News (and Republican hacks like Newt Gingrich) have clearly hijacked the "tea party" protests, (especially from a distance). Ron Paul's people are saying this. And you have to admit that anyone who watches FOX is missing a screw or two and is getting stupider as they watch.

J.G is sick and tired of watching the stupidity of the FOX narrative drive the debate.

So yeah, criticise her unfair characterization; but don't treat her like the enemy. Educate her, show her a more-complete picture. She's not as entrenched as the paid hacks at FOX. She'd be open to hearing a reasonable criticism. Yet so long as people attack her with the same venom, then we're never going to get past this left/right divide.

Oh yeah, and as per the racist thing... she's actually onto something... though she didn't express it very well.

I think she was alluding to the deeper, psychology button-pushing that FOX and co. does, stoking the flames of fear, insecurity; and deep down inside, race is still an issue in America.

It may not be so obvious today, and she was wrong to characterize ALL the people at these protests as "rednecks and racists," but race WILL prove to be a fundamental tool of the fascist coup, and FOX is continually pushing the tentacles of it everyday.

I also feel for Ry's indignation at her intellectual snootiness, characterizing the protesters as of a low-order; but hey, ever been at a large-scale peace demo in the last ten years?
You know, the one on Feb. 15th 2003 that saw 1 million people in the streets of New York, Washington, and 600,000 in San Francisco? If you had, then you'd already know what it means to be characterized as "loony" "idiotic" "leftists" etc.

So deal with it.

Cut her some slack. If she's anti-war, anti-corporate, then don't treat her as the enemy. Treat her as a part-casuality of the "left-right" divide. Show her a little more patience and maturity than the shills at FOX and she (and other "left" "liberals") might be impressed by what you have to say.

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I'm mostly just mad that the tea party thing has been so co-opted and is not being recognized as such but instead liberals are playing into it to and acting like Rush Limbaugh and co. started the whole thing, when the truth is that they hate libertarianism and freedom. On the other hand it shows the effect that the Ron Paul candidacy had and that the Constitutionalist/libertarian movement is having. It kind of reminds me in a crude way of when a wrestling company called ECW that came out of Philadelphia that was a lot more hardcore and violent than WWF and WCW started to get really big in the late 90's. And then the two bigger companies tried to emulate the extreme style of ECW but could never go as far as they did because they were too mainstream. Anyone who's familiar with what I'm talking about might find that comparison kind of funny. But anyway since this is real life and not pro-wrestling it's a lot different. Actually the mainstream politicial scene is a lot like pro-wrestling in that it's fake but we're not.

But Jeanene Garafolo did say that 9/11 was an inside job on Conan O'Brien before so I thought she was good. I always knew Olbermann was mostly a shill but she's a little bit more geniune than him but she really was wrong about this.

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You fear, hate, riducule, insult and name-call a group of people you perceive to think, live and look different from you...and your label of choice is actually about skin color.

Congratulations, Janeane: You just might be a racist.


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Man fuck everyone on television. Just stop watching the fucking thing everyone.

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and to James. Obviously to take offense at me calling her a stupid cunt. Well if she can't be called a stupid cunt then no one can. People like her are exactly what's wrong with the left in America. I saw so many of her type in college and highschool (which is about where she belongs is high school). They hate "the white man" and blame him for everything and they can see nothing but racism everywhere they look. To these people being a racist is worse than being a rapist. I was waiting for some Liberal Twat to say people only hate Obama because he is black. I KNEW some stupid prick would do it to and I would almost have bet money that it was going to be her because that is all she does. And I really wonder about the hyperly anti-racist people. Like the hyperly anti-gay people usually they are what they are accusing everyone else of being.

Janean is a stupid cunt. She just called all these patriotic Americans Racist with no grounds to say that and she said the conservative party has built itself around the white power movement. Now I hate Republicans as much as anyone, but what kind of paranoid frantic reality does a person live on to think the party they oppose is just a bunch of racists Klan supporters with problems in the "synopsis" in their brain as she ignorantly said by the way synopsis are in computers, brains have dendrites and neurons. She would be the kind of twat that would call Paul a racist meanwhile she supports a guy Obama who really is a racist. Obama fully supports Israel which is building racial colonies so does Janean by the way who is Jewish as well so maybe its just part of her brainwashing. She is the definition of a dumb cunt if I ever saw one. Everything she says is built around negative emotions of fear and the need to inflate herself by crating the dellusion that she is some enlightened intellectual and everyone else that doesn't agree with her is a brain damaged white racist.

I think SHE sounds racist to White and to Arabs as she supports Obama unconditionally. She wasn't anti-war she was anti-Bush and Anti-Republican. Now that Obama is doing all of the same things she supports him even though she hated Bush for all the same things. Talk about brain damage and confusion. She is the tribalist idiot who is supporting a racist and she is the confused cunt who can hat war and loss of freedom under one guy but cheer lead it for the next.

And have I been to a large scale protest in the past 10 years. Obviously. I have been speaking at them. I see a lot of stupid people. But not racist. I meet a lot of informed people as well. The main prejudice in American to day isn't about skin its about religion. The bigots I see on the extreme left and right are anti-Muslim and anti-Atheism heck even some of the Muslims hate the atheist. But it's the Muslims who are getting killed. Go listen to "jack off missile jonny and the glass parking lot morons" in the basic section.

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She's not Jewish and she doesn't support Israel. She spoke out against Israel on Real Time with Bill Maher after the CIA guy went on and said that Israel isn't worth one American life or penny which offended Bill. She's said a lot of good stuff in the past like that 9/11 was an inside job on Conan O'Brien. She's just too partisan and was really wrong and ignorant about this. But most of these people at the tea parties aren't patriotic Americans. The tea party thing has been co-opted by the Republican party now and it's mostly partisan Republicans who suffer from the same mental block as Garofalo, only they're worse in my opinion because they're gung ho for imperialism and evil. However the fact that the Republican party is now having to bend to the growing popularity of the libertarian movement and emulate it in order to stay relevant presents an oppurtunity for informed people to try to wake up mainline Republicans to the full spectrum of what's going on, with the Federal Reserve and everything.

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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:47 pm 
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She's said a lot of good stuff in the past like that 9/11 was an inside job on Conan O'Brien. She's just too partisan and was really wrong and ignorant about this.


Yeah she has said some good things but just look at some of her statements and what they show. Asked who she preferred preferred Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama she said paraphrasing "either one it doesn't matter they are both fine." Now anyone with any clue at all about what is going on (and remember she was on liberal talk show so she was more aware of the issues than most people) would never say something like this. Argueably it is certainly possible that before Obama was elected and we learned more about him you could say he might be ok. But Clinton is an entirely different matter, she was completely silent about the Iraq sanctions that killed 500,000 children, the bombing of civilians in Serbia, Waco, etc. etc. etc. etc. In fact she openly supported much of this. It just does not wash with me that any decent person knowing these things (and she must have known some of it) could still support that person for president.

What she said about the tea parties was not just wrong, it was something only a very uninformed person could say innocently, and she is very political, believe me she knows that some of the dissent from the tea parties was about taxes and the war and civil liberties. Add to that the fact that playing the race card looks suspiciously like the ruling classes agenda of making this about race while avoiding the real issues. She says a few good things which act as cover for her to make much more relevant attacks against true patriots.


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Celebrities are almost always brainwashed bleeding heart liberals with no common sense or reason i.e. they automatically support Obama without even looking into his voting record. Just throw out your television and become the media, that's the only way around this complete douchebaggery.

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Celebrities are almost always brainwashed bleeding heart liberals with no common sense or reason


And if they aren't they never get to be celebrities to start with, unless of course they're neocons. However if some big celebrities would start talking honestly about what is going on in this country, and throw out the tribalism, it would certainly help our cause, millions of people listen to celebrities.

On the subject of TV I basically stopped watching TV for about 10 months and when I went back to it a little it struck me how incredibly lame and stupid almost all of it is, with few exceptions. TV's mind control.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumbass celebrity liberal plays the race card
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:06 pm 
Nobodies said anything about Olbermann. He was supporting everything she said. He's 100% a shill for the zionist owned and controlled media. He went after Bush a lot, wow how brave ... what a journalist ... another H.L. Mencken ... what a fucking joke ... a now the mask has come off and still all the pinheads over at places like digg are fawning all over him. What a bunch of dickheads. :evil:


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